Remembering the Backwards Tree

This Journal will document my journey into the Backwards Tree. This time around, I have an eye for the practical. “So what, how does this actually matter or make a difference?” I am interested in exploring the theme of laughter and humor.

Every journey into the Tree is unique. Trying to compare them is akin to trying to compare a Da Vinci to a Van Gogh. Unique works of art are… unique!

My current format is six days per Qlippa. Day 1 and 6 are the typical recitations that we are familiar with. Days 2-5 are about observing the themes that are in-bodied by each Qlippa. I permit myself up to two days of recovery, with a quick pit stop at the corresponding Sephiroth, if I feel that it is necessary.

The whole power rat race doesn’t really do it for me. Rather, I find a two-fold approach to be wiser. Step 1 : to use my current power wisely and effectively.
Step 2: an appropriate expansion of power.
This seems like a formula one could apply to success. As success can be some people’s undoing.


Lilith: Sphere One

Dream One
In the South American Jungle, I found myself with my relatives on vacation. They are by a pool, fishing and cracking jokes at each others expense. Wholesome. Walking I observe I am no longer with them. I observe I hold a backpack on my right hand. A fifty year old male tells me to walk towards this beaten path, he eyes the backpack. I decline and say I am finding my family. He flashes a revolver. The scene shifts.

My family and I have found each other. However, this fellow thought I disrespectful. To make a point, he points the revolver at me and removes the backpack from my hand. He proceeds to determine three fingers should suffice as payment. My right hand pinky, ring finger, and middle finger are slowly cut off. I say “Belial Belial Belial”. Not to get me out of trouble, but for some reason my (energy? dream?) bodies have been trained to do so. There is no fear here. Just observation. I awake having drenched my clothing with sweat. Seriously. It’s like I took a bath.

Dream Two
I find myself about six feet above ground level, in the same South American Jungle. I have the ability to sort of bunny-hop, traveling up to several hundred feet. My mother and my sister are searching for me. With some focus, akin to irl taking to a spirit, I can speak to these people. I am made aware that I am a spirit. They are searching for me, and to me, it is like a game of hide and seek. I do not know exactly where, but to me it is fun so I offer to help. I quickly bunny-hop several times, and get the lay of the land. I direct a group of people to a location covered with several hundred (?) ears of shucked, dried yellow corn. Seriously, it’s like this corn stuff was just pouring out the earth. I get a good feeling from this place. About three inches down, a body is found. Mother begins to cry. To me, this evokes no feelings. It’s just a game with muted fun now. They move some of the corn away. I tell them it’s not me. I feel genuine surprise, as this body has my exact tattoos. I remember seeing them very clearly. This fellow is decapitated. Water is poured on the arms, chest and head. It is my decapitated head and body! Albeit a solid 40 pounds heavier. This staccato violin music begins to play. 1-2. 1-2 and 3 and 1-2. Mother and sister began to cry. I awoke drenched in sweat again. And lol, the time is 3 AM.

so what?
Practically speaking, I experience stellar dream recollection. I usually don’t remember my dreams at all. I am interested to see if this dream recollection improvement is a more permanent upgrade, or more like a temporary boost.

I completed my final recitation of this sphere. A max of a two day break, and onward to Gamaliel we go!

quick note
During the recitation of the material below, I found myself emanating love to the entire sphere. It felt green. I suspect this emanating love will be an ongoing item. It is work, and it is fun! :smiley:

Edit 1: I have been informed that the corn burial is a entry into this sphere.


Sphere One: The Text
Rite One: Nahemoth
Liftoach Shaari Ha-Nahemoth B’Shem Ha-Na-Ama-Hema (x11)
[Open the Gate to Nahemoth in the Name of Na-Ama-Hema]

Agios o Sitra Ahra– Drakosophia Gloria!
Veni, Saksaksalim, Et Germinet Aur Chashakh!
Et Revertetur Ad Tenebras!
Io Sitra De-Smola, Drakosophia Liftoach Nehemoth, Sitra Ahra Gloria!
[Numinous is the Other Side– Glory to the Current of the Adversary/ Come, Saksaksalim, and Generate the Black Light/ And Return All to Darkness/ Hail unto Hell, the Sphere of the Black Earth is Opened by the Current of the Adversary, Glory to the Other Side]

Baruch Ha-Kelippa Ha-Reschaim– Liftoach Nahemoth– Phenex Va-Azael Liftoach Nahemo (x9) [Blessed is Reschaim, the Qlipha of the Black Earth– Open the Qliphothic Dwelling of the Black Earth– Phenex and Azael, Open the Womb-Sphere of the Black Earth]

Goap Liftoach Kelippot! Agios Ischyros Nahemo! Qodesh La-Nahemoth! Ari Refu Mata Dragon! Agios o Azael Rex Grigori Et Nephilim! Invoco Phenex In Nomine Qliphoth! Vocamus Te Laylah-Noctiferi! Azielis Proveni Ether Subtilis Totis Orbis! Naamah Nahema Ha-Nahemoth, Liftoach Shaari Ha-Sitra Ahra!
[Goap, Open the Qliphoth! Numinous and Mighty is Nahemo! Holy to Nahemoth! (Chant to Behemoth)! Numinous is Azael the King of the Watchers and Giants! I Call to Phenex in the Name of the Qliphoth! We Call to Laylah the Bringer of Night! Azielis, Provide the Fine Ether of the Entire Universe! Naamah/Nahema/Ha-Nahemoth, Open the Gate to the Infernal Plane]

Anoki Adamas Ater (X8) [I am the Black Diamond]
Sum Lapis Philosophorum (X8) [I am the Philosopher’s Stone]


Sphere Two: Text
Source: VK Jehannum

Liftoach Shaari ha-Gamaliel B’Shem ha-Lilith (x11)
[Open the Gate to Gamaliel in the Name of Lilith]

Goap Liftoach Kelippot! Invoco Verrine In Nomine Qliphoth! Agios Ischyros Qalilitu, Filia Luna Nigrantis! Eurynomos Liftoach Sitra Ahra! Lilit Reginam Aeternum Noctis! Interveni Vinea– Aethereus Dominator! Liftoach Pandemonium, Et Germinet Avnas! Agios Murmux Rex Mormolyceae!
[Goap, Open the Qliphoth! I Call to Verrine in the Name of the Qliphoth! Numinous and Mighty is Qalilitu, Daughter of the Black Moon! Eurynomos, Open the Other Side! Lilith, Eternal Queen of the Night! Open the Infernal Plane, and Bring Forth Avnas! Numinous (is) Murmux the King of Ghouls]

Ornias Va-Layilel Liftoach Shaari Gamaliel (x7)
[Ornias and Layilel, Open the Gate to Gamaliel]

Io Mammon– Drakon Anabaino Gamalielim! Venire Tanin’iver Et Germinet Anados! Invoco Layilel In Nomine Qliphoth! Qalilitu Venire Et Germinet Xul! Ama Lilith, Liftoach Kliffoth! Venire Mater Qalilitu! Veni, Saksaksalim, Et Germinet Aur Chashakh! Agios o Lilith Regina Gamaliel!
[Hail Mammon– Dragon From Gamalielim! Come, Tanin’iver and Engender Magickal Ascent! I Call to Layilel in the Name of the Qliphoth! Qalilitu, Come and Generate Black Light! Mother Lilith, Open the Qliphoth! Come Mother Qalilitu! Come, Saksaksalim, and Generate the Black Light! Numinous is Queen Lilith of Gamaliel]

Anoki Adamas Ater (x8) [I am the Black Diamond]
Sum Lapis Philosophorum (x8) [I am the Philosopher’s Stone]

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Initial recitation done! Four days of observation follow, ending with a final recitation.

I am excited for this sphere. You see, all my life I have had issues with over-identifying with lovers, and potential love interests. I’ve identified as wanting to hold on very tightly to them, which always brings about the opposite effect. While it has diminished, there is still a girlfriend/wife shaped hole in my heart. I am excited for Gamaliel as I know work will be done regarding this matter.

This recitation experiment reminds me of the Ritual of Legion. Physical electricity is felt on the belly button area. During the experiment, I saw a large black dragon’s head. It’s beard tendril stuff (?) was at my hips, and the top of the head extended a good half foot about me. As I recited, it bellowed black fire (?) to the heavens. I had this knowing it reached to the 7th heaven.

Part way through, I started to laugh. But it didn’t feel like the ego-y, personality me. Tbh, it felt like a dragon basically saying “i won” or “he ain’t sleeping” to something else. (?) Vague right? Lol

Last night, a nondescript spirit told me several hundred “of us” are watching me. Maybe some of these spirits tune into folks doing Qliphoth runs, as television? Idk

I felt a significant amount of love emanating from my heart center to the sigil of Gamaliel that I’d drawn. It feels like this love emanates from the black diamond. To me, this diamond is at the heart center.

This ritual had what I now recognize as a werewolf vibe. I agree, it’s sounds cheesy as hell. To me, it involves a sort of primality, that involves a lot of spitting and drooling. This is not really a loss of control, but rather, it’s how the energy expresses itself. Mammon commented that I had grown.

After it, I extinguished my black candle and talked with Lilith. Feeling very far from myself, I was reminded of this white worm thing I saw yesterday. She said something about Jehovah’s influence (?) dying. I saw Metatron’s cube (she does not like that name), with this experiment as a central bubble. I saw something spread like a disease or infection.

She said that I was marrying my HGA. I understood that HGA can mean “more”. And not more holy, or more pure, or any other words associated with angels. Just more

I am not one for all the past lives stuff. It just doesn’t really work for me. However, I was “shown” that I had previously attempted to cross the abyss and failed. Something about the arrogance of a (image of like a pharasee?). Basically I tried to fight Choronzon and had my ass handed to me, and died because of it.

Anywhos… as this black ink disease stuff spread, I saw Jehovah and Lilith. For some reason, I decided to joke. Talking to Jehovah, I said, “Now, you Will let my people go.” Very Moses-y in an inverted way. Lilith got a kick out of that and I saw her making a note of it.

I honestly don’t know how I feel about posting this. It sounds very LARPy. I pride myself on keeping my spiritual practice in the real and not running off with delusions about being The Chosen One.

Whatever. There you have it. Let’s see what adventures the night will bring! I’m loving the growth I’ve undergone, and the growth that is to come.


About the Jehovah stuff. To me, hating folks of any religion is infantile edgelord nonsense. To me, reviling religious oriented folks is a big “I avoid shadow work” sign. You cannot convert or force anybody to see your way of doing things. If you use these words, folks will “wake up” “become as gods, knowing ‘good’ and ‘evil’” whenever they are damn ready!!
The sheep oriented mind of a religious person is a symptom, and not the cause.

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Gamaliel Dreams

I am impressed. These dreams were very pleasant. I visited my previous girlfriend in the home we once shared. Furniture was rearranged. Nothing nightmarish. More of a very healing sort of dream. A sort of healing greater than that of Yesod. There was no resentment or bitterness, just a unique sort of healing brought about by Gamaliel. I did recieved what was the address of this person, but I disregarded it. As I have no need or interest in it. Very powerful divination, no doubt!

In my day to day, I found people being friendlier and more jovial. I suspect that with a certain type (?) of shadow work, it applies not just to the individual but to a local cluster of people. Makes sense, if you consider: the personal shadow, and the collective shadow. Does anybody have names or titles for this collective shadow?

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I call it the collective unconscious, the hidden self of humanity


Sphere Three: Text
Source: VK Jehannum

Sphere Five: the Rite of Thagirion

Liftoach Shaari ha-Thagirion B’Shem ha-Belfegor (x11)
[Open the Gate to Thagirion in the Name of Belfegor]

Eurynomos Liftoach Sitra Ahra! Liftoach Qliphoth B’Shem ha-Mephistophilis! Io Chaunta Clauneck Elantiel! Io Eisheth Zenanim Regina Sol Niger! Salve Beth-Baal-Peor! Eurynomos Liftoach Sitra Ahra! Baruch ha-Paymon ha-Parashiym! Tasa Fubin Amy Secore! Liftoach Pandemonium, et germinet Merihim! Salve Paymon Rex Occidentalium!
[Eurynomos Open the Other Side! Open the Qliphoth in the Name of Mephistophilis! Hail (Names of Claunech)! Hail Eisheth Zenanim Queen of the Black Sun! Hail (Name of Belphagore)! Eurynomos, Open the Qliphoth! Blessed is Paimon the Horseman! (Amy’s Enn)! Open the Infernal Plane, in the Name of Merihim! Hail Paymon King of the West]

Io Sitra De-Smola, Drakosophia Liftoach Thagiriron, Sitra Ahra Gloria!
[Hail to the Sinister Left Side, Drakosophia Open Thagiriron, Glory to the Other Side]

Sol Nigro Sol Nox Sol Nax! Pursan, Purson, Curson! Meris, Merasin, Metiris, Mererim! Lucerifuge, Lucifage, Lucifugus Rofocalus! Tasa On Ca Caim Renich! Don-Graph, Avnas, Drun-Graph, Amy! Sol Nigro Sol Nox Sol Nax! Lyan Ramec Catya Ganen Belphegore!
[(Chant Calling Thagirion)! (Three Names of Purson)! (Four Names of Merihim)! (Three Names of Lucifuge Rofocale)! (Camio’s Demonic Enn)! 87, Avnas, 57, Amy]

Eisheth Koheneth ha-Arsiel! Baruch Ha-Mephist Mephir Ha-Gadhol! Qodesha Yesod Ha-Zamiel! Liftoach Qliphoth B’Shem Ha-Mephistophilis! Agios Ischyros Lucifuge! Liftoach Pandemonium, et germinet Zaleos! Agios Ischyros Verrier! Baruch Ha-Paymon Ha-Parashiym! Voco te Meris, Venire o Merihim!
[Eisheth, High Priestess of the Black Sun! Blessed is Mephist the Great Destroyer! Qodesha, Foundation of Thagirion’s Outer Cortex! Open the Qliphoth in the Name of Mephistophilis! Numinous and Mighty is Lucifuge! Open the Infernal Plane, and Bring Forth Zaleos! Numinous and Mighty is Verrier! Blessed is Paymon the Horseman! I Call to Merihim, Come oh Merihim]

Io Sitra De-Smola, Drakosophia Liftoach Thagiriron, Sitra Ahra Gloria!
[Hail to the Sinister Left Side, Drakosophia Open Thagiriron, Glory to the Other Side]

Anoki Adamas Ater (x8) [I am the Black Diamond]
Sum Lapis Philosophorum (x8) [I am the Philosopher’s Stone]


Love the title of this journal :love_you_gesture:

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The Path of the Spinal Column
To journey directly up and down the Tree of Death, Life, Both.
Ex: Lilith, Gamaliel, Thagirion, [Da’ath], Thaumiel.
Which contains Tiphareth and our Sun as a Robin warms her blue eggs.

Thagirion’s Nature
Thagirion’s nature is best seen as a dark green feminine dragon. Upon contemplation of this in-bodyment, you observe the quality of empathy. (Recall the beautiful robin warming her lil eggies)

Thagirion in Practice
In practice, an acausal dark green diamond, hundreds of feet tall. Your perspective is that of a human on the ground floor. Under the floor there is an apex, and this hums with power.

Begone, Edgelord!
Acausal: I avoided this for a long time because previous edgelords would use this word and charge hundreds of dollars for a success rate of like 20%. To me, acausal feels like a cartoon 1920s disney moment.

Ex: I was driving, driving around town with the girl I love. And I’m like 'fuck fuck you and I i …
Lmao, I got you. :sunglasses:

the acausal experience
I’m driving and get hit with a very out of place, irrational thought. Driving, within my car, to my right, I “know” there is a shape “there”. A Rosy Cross. My experience with the acausal is that it likes to shout information at one, when given attention.

Think of your knee being tapped by a doctor’s instrument, which causes the response of your leg to move up. Suppose a loosely comparable reflex can be programmed into your not-conscious, nightside body. At this “level” much of the work has little to do with conscious thought, word, deed, or action.

Heart of Darkness
I know the edgelord has taken a shit on this idea, bear with me.

Start as the Body of Darkness. {Having done a round though the Tree of Death, you have the authority to imagine all of these spheres as like spheres of play-dough that you smash together into one sphere. Doing your preferred spirit-y methods, you then pour this material over your spirit body as a sort of melted wax material, that is as an impenetrable, elastic material. A Body of Darkness}

Heart of Darkness is when you yeet these two approaches below, and create your own novel whatever…

To Up, To Down: Upon the Dragon’s Spinal Column

See before you a single human spinal column. This is Dayside.
See before you a single human spinal column, below the Dayside column, made of shadow and smoke. Apply the color-theme of ying and yang to them, as you see fit.
I’m not an artist here. But it’s like this. Wanting to form a clay figure, you elect to use a base and y axis of wood. This is the Spinal Column. As Clay, you slap the Body of Darkness on this wooden core. Just energy work it, bro.

  1. The Approach of Jannes and Jambres
    “How did they journey to the heart of darkness?”

Moses is well known, no doubt. Pentateuch, these 6th and 7th Books of His. Heh.
If you think the geyser is impressive, wait till you Remember the Root system of smoke and shadow.

At a Mercury-Earth level, the First Five Books of the “Dayside” Bible. This is significant because it informs one of several items. Exploit the fuck out of these fruits, perceptive pals! :sunglasses:

Dayside Malkuth said five holy books - pentateuch.
Nightside Lilith said as five nations -

They went up to the 5th heaven. I guess Metatron hypno’ed them? Does anybody know somebody close to Metatron?

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Tree of Death: So Far

Working with this model frequently brings up an impression of the Caduceus, with the two Shoulder items.
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters Genesis 1:2. This is valuable in that it hints at the nature of these waters before a creation. Heavier waters, those closer to cold syrup. Lighter waters, those closer to mist.

When I work with the Tree, I start with those waters. First, there is undifferentiated nothing. Second, there is a sexual type shudder, and waters are, and they split into ligher and heavier water. Third, this heavy water takes the form of a black serpent wrapping around the Tree model. From here, I can zoom onto the relevent spheres and pathways.

It’s useful to work with the Spinal Column as the Center Pillar of the Tree, and the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems as the Pillars of Mercy and Severity.


This sphere has been impersonal, like pathworking to a formula, instead of a personified spirit. The main image or location is a dark green diamond. It rotates clockwise or counterclockwise, at a slow and steady pace.

Just know those words are very close to Thagirion, as intimate as thy breath. If Thagirion could describe itself, it might use those words.

Thagirion imbues one’s magickal practice with heart. For example, Thagirion taught me to pursue my own correspondences. I don’t really care what an “official” correspondence has to say. Mammon and Amon stepped forth. Therefore, they are Thagirion spirits, to me. Your personal correspondences are as valuable as “official” correspondences.

Due to the impersonal nature of Thagirion, I find it best to incorporate Thagirion into a magickal project. I open the sigil of Thagirion or Belphegor, and those of relevent spirits. I then write or sketch my way into new magickal projects.

I experienced this sphere with a theme of the shadow of power. How the use of power may bring about shadowy stuff (guilt, shame, abasement, and on the other pole, megalomania). I enjoy these themes, and this experience of this sphere was focused on weaving this sphere into my projects.


Sphere Four: The Rite of Thaumiel

Liftoach Shaari ha-Thaumiel B’Shem ha-Satan Va-Moloch (x11)
[Open the Gate to Thaumiel in the Name of Satan and Moloch]

Goap Liftoach Kelippot! Eya On Ca Azazel Aken! Ave Paymon Rex Pandemonium! Moloch Liftoach Kliffot! Baruch Ha-Amdusias Geber Ha-Thaumiel! Veni, Saksaksalim, Et Germinet Aur Chashakh! Necas! Torgive, Micalzo Eligor-Abigor Zorge, Niis, Taviv! Eurynomos Liftoach Sitra Ahra!
[Goap, Open the Qliphoth! (Azazel’s Demonic Enn)! Hail Paymon the King of Pandemonium! Moloch, Open the Qliphoth! Blessed is Amdusias, the Warrior of Thaumiel! Come, Saksaksalim, and Generate the Black Light! (Name of Thaumiel)! (Abigor/Eligor’s Enochian Enn)! Eurynomos, Open the Qliphoth]

Curiel Liftoach Qlipha Ha-Thaumiel (x11)
[Curiel, Open the Qlipha of Thaumiel]

Tasa Reme Laris Satan– Ave Satanis! Pursan, Purson, Curson! Nirig Nirgali E-Meslah! Io Tap Rex Pandemonium! Salve Magoth; Agios o Magoa! Aperiatur Dudael, Et Germinet Azazel! Qodesh La-Molock Sar Thamiel! Aperiatur Acharayim, Et Germinet Satanas!
[(Satan’s Demonic Enn)– Hail Satanis! (Three Names of Purson)! (Three Names of Nergal)! Hail Tap, the King of Pandemonium! Hail Magoth; Numinous is Magoa! Open the Desert, and Bring Forth Azazel! Holy to Molock the Prince of Thamiel! Open the Qliphoth, and Bring Forth Satanas]

Anoki Adamas Ater (x8) [I am the Black Diamond]

Sum Lapis Philosophorum (X8) [I am the Philosopher’s Stone]

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My experience is not your experience!

Introducing Gargophias!
The path from Thagirion to Thaumiel is Gargophias.
These are incorrectly called the Tunnels of Set, I like the term Choronzon’s Pathways or Tunnels of Choronzon. Since it is a ruler of Da’at, Da’at which is not…

The Tunnels of Choronzon
Point is, you can make your own tunnels up. Connecting two spheres not done so in any official occult document. When you do so, name it.

my Gargophias

It is as the undifferentiated waters, in the theme of Genesis, before creation. My Gargophias feels like a texture. Focusing on this texture reveals a shape. Two horizontal lines, one atop the other. Within this line are two distant triangles. The background, which does not matter, feels like greek marble statues. This
line-and-triangles ??? Is where I go to when working with Gargophias.

It’s primary mode of communication is “silent knowings”.
It manifests as a ??? that reorients me, reminds me of what I’ve forgotten, with respect to Thagirion and Thaumiel. These (your name here!) Sort of Choronzon Tunnels adventures do garner attention. If you’ve been taking the one-a-day Bornless multivitamin, you have the tools.

To me, tunnels feel lovecraftian.

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Straight up the Qlippoth Tree

Thus far, I’ve experienced Nahemoth, Gamaliel, Thagirion, and Thaumiel. I have a few items I wanna get off my chest. As always, my experience isn’t a rule or anything… If I sound stuck up, it’s more of my writing style neading refinement…

Danger Danger

The most dangerous spirit in my entire spirit-y adventures is Myself. In the rare gem of “the first in the infernal Hierarchy is you”, Mr Tofu said ‘the main motherfucker that consistently fucks you over is you.’

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Sphere Eight: the Rite of Satariel

Liftoach Shaari ha-Satariel B’Shem ha-Lucifuge Rofocale (x11)
[Open the Gate to Satariel in the Name of Lucifuge Rofocale]

Venire– Rofocale Rex Noctifer! Io Edom Belial! Veni, Veni, Ereshkigal—Regina Irkalla-Kurnugi! Eisheth Koheneth Ha-Arsiel! Baruch Ha-Raflifu! Ama Lilith, Liftoach Kliffoth! Aperiatur Acharayim, Et Germinet Lucerifuge!
[Come– Rofocale the Night-Bringing Monarch! Hail Edom Belial! Come, Come, Ereshkigal—Queen of the Underworld! Eisheth, High Priestess of the Black Sun! Blessed is Raflifu! Mother Lilith, Open the Qliphoth! Open the Backwards Tree, and Bring Forth Lucerifuge]

Liftoach Harasiel, B’Shem Ha-Isheth Zenanim (x11)
[Open the Saturnian Qlipha, in the Name of Isheth Zenanim]

Bitru-Guision-Edom Belial, Liftoach Satorial (x11)
[Sitri, Guision, and Adam Belial, Open the Saturnian Qlipha]

Anoki Adamas Ater (x8) [I am the Black Diamond]
Sum Lapis Philosophorum (x8) [I am the Philosopher’s Stone]


Saturn, Satorial and Lucifuge

These past several days, I’ve had to opportunity to devote time to Saturn.


I put forth the gentle suggestion that a great deal of haze, the sort of cloud that hides the true nature of, surrounds much of our current Understanding of Saturn. In magicky terms, this is a blind spot.

Having done this for a while, we all know what is meant by the motif of “demonization”. We all get this when applied to demons. Most of the shadow work regarding the demonization of demons has been done. However, it is not so with regards to the demonization of Saturn.

With the demonization of Saturn motif in mind, I put forth the following. Saturn should be updated to our current speech. Doing so, we should remove it’s subname of “the lesser malefic”.

Updated Saturn

This isn’t a dig or an insult, it is an observation and suggestion. Saturn represents concepts that are scary, period! If our life is as an ornate handheld 1920s pocket-watch: that ticker runs out. Time and Death doin a sex. No matter our development, we have an animal nature. And animal finds Death spooky.

However, that does not make it bad. Not bad, not malefic. Immense. Grand.

then what?

the friendly
Saturn the Friendly

A quick justification: Jovial means something like the jolly laughter of Santa, traditionally Jupiter. In Liber Astrum by Apuliensis we are given a pathworking of Saturn: “Seven bright stars aligning in the night sky, forming a line. A Juniper tree with ripe berries. An owl lands on a branch of the Juniper tree. A dragon turning into an old man with a beard.” Here we have that which is undeniably and linguistically Jupiter, a freaking Juniper tree with the berries (abundance), just being of Saturn.

In that spirit, the Jovial Jupiter laugh goes wonderfully with Saturn. Saturn the Friendly!

This is still Saturn. The nature is Saturn, so friendliness should not be mistaken as a license to be disrespectful or rude. Or maybe I’m just crazy. :face_with_monocle:

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